Jeff explains why Hyperliquid chose to stay bootstrapped, arguing that VC ownership can scar a network and that self-funded revenue aligns incentives with users. The decision was initially controversial but later proved prescient as the model gained traction across DeFi.
Matt recounts how Blue Tokai started with no formal plan, a tiny tabletop roaster and a belief that Indian consumers would eventually crave specialty coffee. The founders convinced local growers to sell export‑grade beans, proved the market was ready, and grew from a bedroom operation to a multi‑city chain.